>> tre no way you can divert this conversation by throwing out chaff on things like andy mccabe. i don't think anybody, including director mueller, my former boss, is going to use the word "collusion." they won't ask the president about collusion. they will not give him an opportunity to say there's no collusion here. that's all a myth. >> he'll say it anyway. i'll bet you lunch on that. >> i agree. but my point is the questions as we were just talking about will be, what happened during the don junior last year, and did you discuss that with any members of the team? and there's going to be a thousand questions like that. behind that is going to be interviews with people around that conversation with that russian lawyer and, further, e-mails, text messages. if anybody in those text messages or e-mails ever said, i talked to don trump sr., that is the president, about this and the president says never heard of the meeting, he's in trouble. the questions will be detailed and fact-based. he can try to divert by saying there's no collusion.