and the war on global terror. a former prosecutor running for attorney general of illinois. so, because he has hired a white collar attorney, juliette, does that give you indication something is going on? >> certainly it's a hint. all these things are hints in terms of who is are the people surrounding themselves with. remember a couple months ago jared kushner hired a crisis communications team. suggesting he was nervous about something. i would make something of this. but we don't know where mueller's team is in terms of would they accept a plea? i have to say, though, if you are gates, why wouldn't you at this stage? i mean, if you're not a family member of trump's or not a true believer and looking at serious time, even if it had -- even if the -- the indictment had nothing to do with the campaign, he was certainly very close to the campaign. he knew what was going on. he was close to manafort. stuck around after manafort is gone.