feel the heat and start going on with the continuing resolution. >> doesn't matter where you stand. but kellyanne conway is saying the shut down hurts families. but that's what they were talking about in 2013. >> what you are pointing to, obviously you are republican, but you see the democrats point of view. they are not against chip, they are for t but they want the d.r.e.a.m.ers in there and there is a reason. >> here's the problem. all tactics. it's how much can they get. what they really want is something on immigration. they don't think there is any way to get it unless guns blazing in a moment of total he heatness, with hyper polarization, and if democrats