trump organization. >> michael, a lot of people don't know this about you, but you have done a ton of legal practice about money laundering. i want your take on this. i hadn't heard this before, which hurts my feelings as a reporter. i asked jackie speier do you think these transactions are in any way connected to what we saw as interference? she says yes. she's trying to develop that rationale. and then i ask whether or not this was only because of what they heard from glenn simpson, right? you can read the transcript of his testimony from the house and to the senate. she said no. there is a lot of open source documentation. he's not the first one to bring it to the panel. so what's your take? >> so let's put aside the foreign corrupt practices act because that's a little bit different. that's a bribery statute. "in the money" laundering sphere, the statute she's referencing makes it a crime to engage in a financial