with mueller's investigation. but is stonewalling your committee. did you get any kind of explanation as to why he'll talk freely to mueller but not to your committee? >> no, anderson. actually, it doesn't make a lot of sense. and it also doesn't flow legally that he would be willing to talk to bob mueller, but under subpoena to congress, that he would not answer any of our questions. also, the white house has been quite inconsistent, that they are asserting the privilege for not only steve bannon's time at the white house, but any time after the campaign, during the transition, as well as even when he had left the white house. and so it appears that there is something they don't want steve bannon to tell us. >> and you have no doubt this is being orchestrated by the white house, that steve bannon, his attorneys are consulting with the white house on all of this. >> we were told by steve bannon's attorneys that they were on the phone as we were meeting in the intelligence committee with the white house.