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conditions in some places and figuring what is actually necessary. but there's a bigger consideration. there are actually two. let's go one by one. raj, is this wall so important that it will overwhelm what the president said he really wants, which was a bill of love? because you've got to make a choice right now. it's pretty clear. if you want to help the d.r.e.a.m.ers and help with that urgent circumstance and not keep seeing stories like we did like jorge garcia torn away from his family and sent to mexico, a place where he hasn't lived since he was 10 years old, you're going to have to act and now. is that more important to the president than the wall? >> well, our priorities are very clear. we cannot get into a situation where we have a temporary stopgap fix and then a few years down the road, we have hundreds of thousands of new illegal immigrants in this country. that is not a fix, and that's inhumane, and that is not a bill of love. that is not one that will provide a permanent solution. what we want is an actual permanent solution, and that starts with securing our southern border. you said is this a sticking

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