>> to be clear, he is taking cholesterol lowering medication, he is bored he line obese. can you characterize that as excellent health? >> i think based on his current cardiac study, his heart is very healthy. >> help sort this through for us. >> well, he has these various risk factors. part of reason do you these risks on the heart is to figure out if they have heart disease and what the likelihood is down the road. these are tests. objective data. i think the point that dr. jackson is make go, who sit very diligent and did a thorough work-up. he had these functional tests. an echocardiogram of the heart. he had a stress test. and he said those tests were normal. the heart performed normally. he also has all these other problems. he has very high cholesterol and a bad type of cholesterol known as ldl elevated despite being on