♪ ♪ struggle music struggle sounds ♪ ♪ struggle people sturggle now ♪ ♪ struggle music struggle sounds ♪ ♪ struggle people sturggle now ♪ ♪ struggle music struggle sounds ♪ ♪ what is going on in africa today for me is i think a perverse kind of hopelessness. working for a system that is oppressing you and you know it's oppressing you, but you've given up that there is nothing i can do about it. >> anthony: i mean is that what you see because, honestly, i've never been in a country where everybody are working so hard at something. >> femi: they're hustling. >> anthony: they're hustling, right. i've been to drc to ghoma and kisingani, and those were not hopeful places. >> seun: yeah, but nigeria is the same way as drc in the north. because we have the boku haram insurgency. people are being killed, but nobody wants to talk about it. nobody wants to act as if it is a serious as -- because nigeria we play the game. we are the kings of the game.