arizona, a several thousand-mile high mountain, the huachuca mountains. i'm not aware of anyone proposing a wall over the huachuca mountains. there's a river that borders our southern border and parts of mexico. i'm not aware of anyone proposing a wall for the middle of that waterway. parts of our border already have a physical wall. there are other parts of our border that, as far as i know, republicans and democrats are in agreement, that we can be strengthening that infrastructure. but this whole thing has been boiled down to sound bites on both sides. do we build a wall or not build a wall? i think it would be very helpful for our country if we just cut through all of that, had a discussion of what the best policy is. so when we all realize we're not talking about a 30-foot wall on a several thousand-foot mountain or in the middle of a riverway or where there already is a wall that's working. by the way, in other parts of the border, i think, using infrastructure, we have great border patrol agents. and this isn't just about