explanation of how hard the president was working, that is not necessarily a different reality than him working hard for himself and his brand extension and any future plans he had and his love of crowds and fame, and that doesn't tell us the reporting in here about the ailes and his future plans, and he liked to go to the rallies whether or not he thought they would win him the election, fair point? >> it would be against the facts of everything we know about donald trump for him not to be thinking during the course of the run for the presidency playing the angles of how this may work out if he doesn't win the presidency, how it would help him in his business, and it would not be donald trump if he did not think that. >> yeah. >> if half of this is true, if just half is true of everything, it's unlike any kind of dysfunction we have ever heard