of trump country. you talk a lot with the voters. are you hearing similar themes from the voters you talked to, this idea that the president won, and that's all that really matters? >> well, it's really interesting to me, so for my upcoming book, the great revolt, i went to all the counties in the country that voted for obama twice and then trump. a lot of these voters still like obama personally, but they voted for trump because they voted for change. so sort of some of the same sentiments, so when it comes to russia, there's a couple conflicting things that i hear from these voters. first of all, on russia, in the interference, it's very difficult for them to separate the thought that russia attempted to interfere and hearing people talk about it in a way that says that it meddled and/or influenced the election. from their point of view, they look at as though, hey, i voted