meeting. this is where the magic happens. >> okay, all right. >> any inmate that wants to write for "san quentin news," all they have to do is come to the journalism guild to get lessons on writings and they can be given stories. >> so you just have to show a willingness to do it and pick up the skills? >> yeah. >> okay. are these computers connected to the internet? >> heck no. i wish. we have berkeley students that do research for us. we come up with the ideas and they gave us the information and all the support we need. >> so, it's basically the old-school internet -- people. >> people. [ laughter ] >> there's nothing about the way these guys are working that's says this is a hobby or just a way to pass time. at first glance, seems like san quentin is taking this rehab thing seriously. >> all right. i like wait kamau comes to work. that's right. >> hey, kamau, know any spirituals? ♪ swing low sweet chariot ♪ coming for to carry me home