speaking on behalf of the president that he believes russian trolls, russian cyber warfare activists were engaged in trying to influence the outcome of the u.s. presidential election? >> yes, he has said that. getting to those comments that you just mentioned, he's also affirming a fact that the cyber problem is not simply a russian problem. there are other malicious cyber actors, including north korea, for one, and that cyber threats are not just these influence operations. the cyber threats, there are a range of cyber threats, threats to critical infrastructure, threats to american intellectual property and our economic security. we face a growing cyber danger that the whole government has to get together to confront and it's not just about one country and not just about one area. >> let me ask you about another line that jumped out at me. in the actual document it says china and russia are revisionist powers who want to shape a world antithetical to u.s. values and interests. does the president believe that? >> he believes that, yes, these