flynn pardon. this isn't the first time, you know, they have been on the same page. but what do you read into that, the let's see, and not yet? >> well, i think the one thing we have seen time and time again from donald trump is use of the phrase "we'll see" when he's not ready to make a decision. >> what's that about? >> i don't know, i think one of the default phrase gs th phrase likes to use, like huge, that he likes to throw in his speech. i don't necessarily see a flynn pardon coming down the pike any time soon. although that said, there is stuff that flynn pled guilty too, they are more of a process crime in terms of the russia investigation, and anythithan a did tore jeopardize security of america. >> a crime is a crime is a crime. >> so what you saw from dumt is