back now with my experts. john was saying he understood the rationale for him doing it, not that he condoned it. >> you were saying bannon was trying to get the audience excited by attacking romney. choosing some, i don't know, establishment democrat figure and making personal attacks against them. that's what the audience wants to hear? >> the whole point is -- >> he's attacking mitt romney who is a guy who ran -- >> what is the race about? in republican politics today it's about making changes, go with the trump agenda, get rid