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fire all the time from the man on top and he's making your job more difficult. >> david gergen, last week when we spoke, and i can't believe it's just last week, because every week seems like a month, you talked about the possible need for some sort of -- i don't know if intervention was the word, but you think that the president's family should make sure that he's doing okay. has his reaction to this flynn news changed your opinion at all? >> no, it's only reinforced it, i'm afraid. look, i did use the word "intervention." and that is often that someone in a family, if a family -- a beloved family member has gone off the rails, you step in and tray to help that person. you may do it with the help of outside psychiatrists or other mental health person or someone, you know, who can help a person through a crisis. but the critical thing is to make sure the person is okay, and then try to get them back to stability. and that clearly hasn't happened with this president. and it is -- it's unsettling, to

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