it's politics. they can hold a hearing if they want to talk about whether a hangnail was caused by nafta. they could do it. >> if they don't do it, what's plan b? >> wait a second. here is what i'm saying. i said two weeks ago if the committee would hold a hearing, not only would we give it to them to have an independent examiner examine it, but our client, beverly, will voluntarily testify under oath. and if, as and when, she testifies, she will testify to the fact that that statement, his signature, was written by him but we also want the committee to subpoena him. >> i understand. >> he has not at all said to any reporter, at least no reporter has reported it, that he would testify under oath. >> if no senate committee takes this on, can't you just go to a third party handwriting analyst to solve this?