just locker room talk, including the first lady, melania trump actually told you this was just locker room talk. there's never really been a denial from the white house as to whether or not this tape is authentic, whether or not this is the president's voice on there. one other note that we should mention, billy bush who lost his job and has suffered significantly, his career because of this tape, has never denied that the tape wasn't real so there's really an interesting imbalance between what was said last year and apparently what the president is suggesting in private -- or in public. >> joining me now is arianne zucker who was in the tape doing the interview with citizen trump ands also billy bush. so the president questioning the authenticity of the "access hollywood" tape. you were there. is there any possible way it is not authentic? >> well, obviously, i wasn't there during the bus ride. i mean, i had -- just to reiterate, i had no idea what was going on before they