dozen rohingya refugees when he makes the second stop on this southeast asian tour in bang der. rosemary? >> and we will talk about that in just a moment. ivan watson, many thanks to you. joining us there from hong kong. let's go to phil robertson now, who joins us from bangkok, thailand. he is the deputy director for the asia division of human rights watch. thank you so much, sir, for being with us. >> of course. >> as we heard from ivan watson there, after the pope's visit to myanmar, he does plan to go to bangladesh where the rohingya refugees are located, and we understand he may very well meet with some of those refugees. how likely it is that the pope will do that? and what impact would such a meeting have if he does go ahead and talk to rohingya refugees? >> well, we hernl hope that he will, because the are really a forgotten people. they have been stripped of their name by the burmese government. they have been stripped of their