like to be on the white house staff. got to watch twitter to see what people are going to do. you were in, you were around when the colin kaepernick protests were going on when he was playing for the 49ers. what did you think then about that? >> i fully supported his right to speak out. i thought he made some mistakes, some big mistakes early. he wore the socks. remember the socks that were pigs in policemen ewan forps. he didn't have a clear message at first. but i supported his right to protest and i think what he did was really admirable. he went out and sought the advice of a man named nate boyer, a former player with a seahawks. a military veteran, who gave kaepernick the advice to kneel. he said in stead of sitting on the bench, kneel. it's also a sign of respect. if you think about you bow in front of somebody. and so this was the advice kaepernick sought out. he sort of refined his message, saying i thought things had made