so let's talk this over with rob branford, the executive director of the wildlife trust which rescues elephants. bob, what do you make of all of this? >> thank you for having us. the situation as we read it is that obviously trump is holding that decision at the moment to lift the ban which is fantastic news. there is a slight concern that he has said holding it with a view to review it, as far as we're concerned in the conser conservation world, any lifting of that ban would be devastating for elephants. governments including the u.s. put a lot of man hours and millions of dollars into the protection of this species. ivory poaching is slightly different, but it's all about saving lines. we're still losing elephants. we lost about 30% in the last ten years of african elephants.