go from there and whether or not it reaches the point of expelling franken from the senate. something very rare that would require two thirds to support. yesterday i had a chance to ask several democratic senators if they believed it would get to the point of expulsion. >> very disappointed. i support an ethics investigation. this kind of conduct not tolerated by anyone. >> do you think this could lead to his expulsion? >> i wouldn't to prejudge anything. >> you can't shut the door on expulsi expulsion. >> the senate will take this up through procedure procedures and will work its will. don't you prejudge is and i won't either. >> could it be expelled? >> i think zblsh -- democrats are also quick to distance themselves on the financial front. members who are in tough races already are saying they're going