to start working backwards from the scene to get as much information as they can about this suspect. obviously they know way more than what they're sharing with us right now for obvious reasons. >> cheryl, i just want to warn you and our viewers, we may have to cut this conversation short to go to the news conference we have just been given a warning should be starting within the next minute or so. but right now our understanding is there is just one gunman. he is dead. at least 20 others are dead. multiple others injured. to have so many victims, what does that tell you? >> well, you know, i'm hearing that this is a very small, rural community, so my gutt tells me right away that this may be very personal to this shooter. you know, you don't come into a small area with very few ways to leave unless you're familiar with it. so did he have an axe to grind with someone there in the community? more specifically, someone there that was connected with that church. >> we only know it was a