there was air life on the ground and circling to get in. it's just awful for the people at church on a sunday. >> did you not hear the gunfire? you learned of this because of someone inquiring about what you knew about it. >> i didn't hear the gunfire. >> when you did get close enough to the church or activity there, describe what you have been able to see. >> there were emergency responders everywhere and people of course lined up and sutherland springs is very small. there is not much there business-wise. there is two gas stations, the church, a community center, post office, a dollar general, a tire shop. that's about it. we are a very small place. people were lined up and we were in shock from what we heard and