>> isn't it striking that that's normally where we go? >> let's assume he is trying to give back to democrat who is tried to slap him with the russia solution and devin nunez is acting in a partisan manner. does this issue seem like something we should want to get to the bottom of and does it seem like a big deal or not and assume that everybody is acting in a political manner. i think it does seem like a big issue and the fact that it happened in 2010 makes it somewhat less relevant, but not irreleva irrelevant. it's something that we should want to know the facts about and are willing to concede that motivations are purely partisan. >> if there is information no matter how far back it goes, if there is information that sheds light on the deal, favorable or unfavorable or raises or resolves questions, great. let's get it. the question is can this cast of characters get us there? >> i think it's why the president decided he upons to