not passing trump's agenda, not at donald trump himself. >> yeah. >> i mean, i just think -- and steven, i appreciate you coming back around on this, but what you said at the outset was to suggest that these two men are saying what they're saying because their poll numbers are low as opposed to them having an honest belief that this president is a danger to democracy. and is a danger to truth. and that i think discredits them. i mean, they're your friends -- >> one quick thing, i wasn't saying that they're saying it, what i'm saying is they're not running for reflection because their numbers are bad. i didn't say this is some kind of personal -- >> corker has a chance of winning. >> he did. >> but his numbers -- that jeff was way under water. he was going to have a very brutal primary and then a brutal general election. a lot of, you know, people who would run the senatorial committee are kind of happy.