i would say two points. we're missing the real scandal which is $430,000 of rnc money is being used to defend donald trump and donald trump jr. that's where $430,000 went that donald trump is ponying up. at the time the rnc wrote this e-mail, send us to fund the border, wel wall, you are payin trump's legal bills. we would have never been able to connect the dots between watergate break-in or the fact that there were tapes. that would have been missing. being paid off from the president is a recipe to be the fall guy. >> you're saying without a doubt it's unethical. >> it is. every time i say it's unethical you interrupt me to scream about loyalty. why don't you address the fact