i felt stupid, you know? get on, get on. >> how are you? >> hello. >> now, there is a definite cache to living in soweto. back when it was hard and dangerous to have an opinion. man del l lived here. if you say you were born and bred in seweto, it would mean something. people own their homes? they start to make money? can you build up? >> yeah, you can build up. >> look at the streets here and you see what that kind of pride does. it may not be a rich area, but it's it's immaculate.