in denmark my guess is, plooes correct me if i'm wrong probably the per cap at that cost of health care is half of what it is in the united states. is that a good guess. >> approximately, yes. >> so the point is they are able to run a high quality healthcare system, probably better than ours at half of the cost because it's a public healthcare system. but to answer to your point, and it's a fair point, nothing is for free. so i believe in a kind of society that's different from ted's. i want to see all of our people, the young people, the old, the poor, the working class, be able to get the education they need, the health care they need, the job training they need. does it cost money to do that? it does. but i believe at the end of the day that is the kind of nation that the american people would like to see us become. >> senator cruz. >> we just witnessed a very important moment in this debate, which is that bernie admitted that he wants to raise every one's taxes. not just the rich. the question was to pay for this socialist state, you've got to raise everyone's tax and bernie