i actually am optimistic based on the harvey weinstein story. allegations horrific, but look at where we've come in just 15 months since my story broke. i actually believe this is the tipping point and it's a lot due to men like you, jake tapper, who i featured in the book -- no, i'm serious. because you have no idea how much it meant to me that as a man you reached out to me in my darkest days and you said that i was a role model for your children, both your son and your daughter. and that meant the world to me. and we need men like you in this fight. i have a whole chapter, you included in the book, men who defend. we need you to help us with this mission so thank you. >> well, it's i who thanks you, but i do want to ask you about some of the other things in the book because there is a lot of advice for women, empowering advice. one of the things you note is unfortunately in the experience of far too many women, the hr department, the human resource department, you quote someone saying it might as well be the