about this, alisyn. one quick thing. right now the problem with the u.s. economy isn't so much we're not creating enough jobs. we are. in fact, a lot of places in the country we have more jobs than we have people that can fill them. the biggest problem, i believe, and i think donald trump agrees, is that for 15 years the average middle class worker has not seen a pay raise. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. go ahead. >> when you look at the question, we're not in general disagreement. i think that the tax cut will, in fact, create jobs. the question is, are there bodies out there? we have an unemployment rate of 4.2%. that the point, the economy is close to full employment. so that's not as easy. but when you look out there of this tax cut and you ask yourself, is it going to be good for america? of course it is. but who bears the corporate tax burden? in fact, stephen doesn't like the tax policy center but here you have nonpartisan individuals, tax specialists from the reagan administration, from the bush administration. >> what do they say? >> and the clinton administration. they're saying that only 20% of the corporate tax burden is born