know, jeff flay probably has voted with donald trump 95% of the time. >> that's right. >> and dean heller, who could go down if steve bannon helps support his primary opponent. orrin hatch has been a huge supporter of donald trump. and bannon is now apparently going to be supporting a challenge. so this isn't about supporting a reform agenda. orrin hatch is supporting donald trump's reform agenda. it's about ousting these establishment guys that have been around a long time. >> that's not what president trump was saying. >> different than today. >> mr. bannon seems to me, and perhaps president trump, to want a very different kind of politics in our country -- >> that's right. >> -- driven by racial division and animus. >> he's bragging about blowing up the party. >> he wants people to get on board with the president's agenda. cut taxes -- >> josh, is that -- >> -- repeal and replace obamacare. >> i heard there's someone here who wrote a book about -- >> i think that is what bannon wants, but i don't agree necessarily that trump moved toward mcconnell today. we saw two things.