the thing we didn't realize, though, is these trucks weren't the leading edge of the convoy, they were actually at the tail of the convoy of maybe 1,000 taliban. >> so we're just kind of looking with binos and we saw this glimmer. >> i mean, these guys were coming heavy. and we're talking 23-millimeter guns. 23-millimeter is like that big. i mean, it will -- it will blow you -- it would be like mist. >> we'd tell the pilots, okay, where the two trucks right there. and the pilots are going that's it? yeah. that's us. everything else is enemy south of us. >> we were [ bleep ]ed. >> and yoshida assured us. he's like, man, i'm on 10, i'm talking to these pilots, we're knocking them out.