>> look, i think that you can understand the motive for this white house or any white house to try to deny the story that's right in front of everybody's faces. i think back to the first days of the administration with the travel ban where that chaotic weekend that people were arriving at airports and there was utter chaos as to who could come into the country and who couldn't. and i was talk to go senior administration officials who were denying there was anything out of the ordinary going on and of course later when they looked back on it if you remind administration officials now they sort of privately acknowledge that didn't go well. i think what you have is a kind of initial instinct and general kelly, chief of staff kelly showed it today, an initial instinct to try to deny deny deny and the truth is that the kind of reporting that dan that and quintet and my paper have done is really beyond denial at some point, right. you can pick with a fact or a