and more strengthening of the checks and balances and separations of powers that have been largely ignored over the last several decades. >> right. look, the difference between health care policy, immigration even, is that in domestic matters, it's a bit more transparent. there is a push and a pull. policy can lurch in different directions. when we get into national security, it is an obvious point. it is so much more dangerous. and the process is not as transparent. we don't know, for instance, on on north korea whether 9 president is really reservation or there is a policy that's more coherency that may lead to success. >> look what happened in syrort. small scale. maybe arguably not even that effective. the way president approached it is something congress to take into consideration. they have to stand up because they are serious questions not just hot talk anymore. >> gentlemen, thank you very