to note that he made a comment two months before he even apparently bought the airline ticket that marilou was going out of town and he says that right in front of another woman. so his disregard for marilou seemed to come out in that particular situation. whether or not marilou even heard it or not, just to say that to another woman. >> yeah. anthony, you know people who know paddock. what are they telling you about him? how good of a gambler was he? >> it's very difficult to tell how good he was just on observation, seeing him play. you don't stand over somebody's shoulder and watch what they're doing. the level he was playing, he was definitely playing at a high level. he appears to have been well studied. i publish gambling products and he's on our mail list. and he had bought products from us. very significantly tutorial type products for sure. >> let's talk about the type of games that he played. what type of games did he play? how much money are we talking about?