a place that has a decent police presence. there's a lot of places there that would be likely targets. so they have a decent police presence there at all times. but to get a s.w.a.t. team and not just in s.w.a.t. team because with the explosive breaching capabilities where they could explosively breach that door and make entry, that's what we call a dynamic entry. on a dynamic entry, four things have to happen. speed, surprise, violence of action and that breach has to go. and in this instance, whien wouldn't you just wait and surround because you're trying to mitigate more shooting. so you have to move quicker, you can't do slow and methodical. >> 50 dead and 400 injured f they hadn't broken down that door and gotten in that room, it's a certainty that more people would have been killed. guys, standby, if you will. joining us is jen salazar, who was in the middle of the attack