you're standing or kneeling at the flag. the real question is why is trayvon martin laying in a cask casket. michael brown and alton sterling and the list goes on and on of people laying in a casket, and we're talking about whether you're kneeling or standing. i just think it's a tough conversation, and i think it deserves a real honest discussion. and i don't think that this president is given us that. by the way, we've sent him letter after letter after letter. 130-page book about how we start to address racial problems, how we help the african-american community, how we help rural communities and poor communities. and he has not responded to any of them. >> do you think he read it? >> absolutely not. he didn't read it. the attorney general is who i said he was when i testified against him. he is a racially challenged man from alabama and this president chose to go to alabama to start