we were also culture that was conquered first by the aztecs, and then we conquered by the spaniards. so, we were always told that everything that was good and excellent has to be imported, and what we have here, it was just not good. >> anthony: right. another zapotecan classic, chile agua. a simpler dish of cow and pork brains, cooked with chiles, tomatoes, and yerba santa. >> alejandro: as a cook, the main thing i learned was to develop a little bit my cuisine here. there was this space where nobody tried to innovate, still using the same techniques, the same ingredients, the same flavors, herbs, etc. but, you know, develop it a little bit. >> alejandro: muchas gracias. gracias. >> anthony: i mean, that's as old school as it gets. this is super ancient.