been to north korea. i have looked but only from the south down the barrel of a gun. we know they have demonstrated their resilience, their ability to withstand this pain. so now we are casting about and trying to find the right combination of pressure directly to the north korea ans. pressure on other areas of the region, china and russia, and bringing in friends, partners and allies into this mix and creating a battle wave of pressure that we hope can begin to turn the north koreans. but i think this idea of a nuclear-free peninsula has become a little bit of a dream at this point. what we need to do is look to what can our strategy be going forward that contains this threat and that works the counterproliferation piece. it does not allow them to move these nuclear weapons, missile technologies to other rogue nations. >> it's more than just the