pot stirrer and she's not doing anything positive there. so ryan can -- >> but at a government level and people who would actually want to come in. i wasn't even asking if they were friends, just people who could do these jobs. >> you understand the point i was making. the question was a setup to try to knock the president on the issue of race -- >> why is every hard question a setup. i'm going to ask you, jason, senior african-americans in the white house, why aren't there any? is that a setup question? >> the question the way it was put to him, was to knock him to essentially say and go into a long conversation how many african-americans are in the white house and administration,