like a spending cut off sets what we call in washington the pay fors, then the ball will stall out and that's when congress will be in real peril of fumbling the ball here. >> i want to talk about today and what we saw, the president has been making the rounds first in texas and now he's in louisiana. this is a side of the president that maybe we haven't even seen before. he was hugging children, squatting down on the floor. he was speaking with flood victims. even helped serve food to some of those storm victims. is this the side of the president that america needed to see after harvey? >> i think they did, if he was going to go there at all. i have to mention ana, that someone i talked to a republican i talked to in texas said that law enforcement there would have preferred they either be dealing with the -- what's going on in houston and beaumont or taking care of their own homes. so the -- they think that the president's visit has taken some resources away that should have been used elsewhere. that said, it was certainly a very different scene from what we saw when he was here on