to -- >> that's what he did. >> tara, does this send the message that if you are loyal to me, i will pardon you, don't workers i'll take care of you? >> it sends a couple of messages. not only does it send that, that also could have greater implications when it comes to the special prosecutor in the robert mueller case and perhaps the people who are loyal to the president and decided they don't want to follow subpoenas let's say, a federal subpoena by the federal prosecutor, dochbts worry abo don't worry about it, nod and wink, the president will pardon you. but it also says some also. let's not askct as thoetd examps that people are giving that other presidents are pardoned people that are controversial pardons and i happen to agree with those examples, so you are acknowledging that the arpaio pardon was controversial. and it is for a few reasons. joe arpaio, god bless him, he's trying to say that i'm