you deflected to gorka. i know your heart. you know what joe arpaio means to latinos in the country. you know what he means to up grants. you know he has racially profiled. i know you are against that. so i am asking you today, not to leave me alone here as a republican, being the only one condemning it. i know you for years. come on, steve. >> well, you know i am very pro immigrant. i am very pro hispanic. i've thing that latino immigrants who come to the country, the vast majority of them are great contributors to our country. the reason i can't comment on this frankly, don, i just don't know that, the facts, of the case. so, it's hard for me to, to, to pass judgment on, on, you know what he was -- >> all these years you have been around. hold on. anna, i will let you jump in. all these years you have been around. you are a very learned man. you know about sheriff joe arpaio. you know about the pink underwear. you know about what happened with immigrants. you have worked with anna as she