you to listen to some of his thoughts on the issues of statues in charlottesville, then talk about it after we take a listen. >> someone who believes in more monuments, not less. what we ought to do is remember our history, but celebrate the progress we have made since that history. >> i mean, chris, you heard it there. more monuments, not less. what is the strategy here? >> well, i think everyone from donald trump on down understands a fight over moral relativism between white supremacists and people there to protest white supremacy is a loser, politically. no. a debate over monuments, which should come down, stay up, be built is, at least a way to pivot that conversation in a way that is at least worthy of debate as opposed to 99.999% of the public viewing things one