to flow troops in, lots of good words about no interference from washington and honorable and enduring outcomes, these things, but i think at its base the substance remains largely unchanged. >> tony, nikki haley says it is really different because the decisions that were made this time by the president were decisive in a way and results oriented in a way that the obama administration was not. >> you have to distinguish between the form and the substance. on form it was a good speech, well written and well delivered and probably the product of something we haven't seen a lot of, which is a really deliberative process to get to the speech and disciplined by the president in delivering it. but on the substance, i very much agree with steve, it is a little bit of old wine packaged in a new bottle and the president promised something he simple can't deliver which is total victory. the fact is we have a strategy not to lose in afghanistan but not a strategy to win, by win