but he lived his life by. i'm not surprised to see this from him and see that kind of chatter. what i will say is this, i noticed a lot from the washington post to you guys as well the use of this term fired all the time. but actually, steve resigned two weeks ago. that's why it was such an easy and quick transition back. it was already planned out. >> he was given the option to resign from what we understand; isn't that right? >> sure. >> when you give the option to resign, you're being pushed out, right? >> that's not entirely true. to say fired i think is slightly disingenuous. he's obviously been building knowing he was going to leave. >> would you agree that he was pushed out? >> don't get me wrong, i think there were lots of people in there that are not for the economic nationalist agenda steve bannon stood for. you and i are in total agreement