what? the answer is very often nothing. so i'm not sure that while he gets some blow-back here. i'm not sure that the long-term effect is significant for him. we're talking about charlottesville this week. it was north korea before that. i don't know that things can't turn for him in a week and that he doesn't suffer long-term consequences. at least within the conference. the republican conference many. i'm not saying the public at large, but at least within the conference. i'm not sure the long-term consequence is great. >> so what's the message, selena, of bannon's firing to his base? bannon in his piece with the "weekly standard" said that the president, when he talked about charlottesville this week, he spoke from his heart that was his default. speaking to his base that got him elected. with bannon out, how is that received? >> well i'll be honest with you, okay? my read is the rust belt, pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin, michigan, indiana, ohio, these are these great lake states that flipped for trump, that the people didn't anticipate it