president's ear. it was the final last straw for bannon. >> but, david, if bannon is going to war for the president, why didn't he just stay in the white house? >> kate, you're often more effective outside the white house than you are in. i've seen that in past administrations that when people get frustrated when they're outnumbered and bannon was outnumbered by the team that kelly assembled. and it just wasn't room in it in this white house for him to be there with kelly. it was supposed to be kelly or bannon. i will tell you i think the president wouldn't have done this unless he knew. unless he lets bannon go and clean house, that kelly wasn't going to stick around and the other generals wouldn't stick around. there were a lot of people disgusted over what happened in charlottesville. i don't think steve bannon was the architect of what trump said about charlottesville. it came from the president