>> this case is different, ashds. >> why? >> how so? >> i agree. how? >> because i think -- >> i think this is -- i agree with paris. i think this is more plain and simple. i think about the country who the united states of america is. this is about hate and bigotry versus what we want to be as a country. this is about white supremacy versus the rest of us. this is about oppression versus the rest of us who died and gave up so much so we can have freedoms. i think it was very easy for the president of the united states to be on the right side of history. i don't understand why that's so difficult to be on the right side of history, paris. that's all i want from any of us. >> i think today he's said exactly what he felt and we all saw it. the day before -- the day before it was a wooden, very scripted, very stiff, no emotion. today the emotions were out. >> someone called it a hostage